Inspired or curious about something The Fundamentalists chatted about on the podcast? Browse these carefully curated show notes to reference and recap where you heard a particular mention, concept, or other thought. Did I miss something? Please let me know and and share your thoughts or suggestions!
Please note: These show notes were a personal passion project. As an avid listener of the show, I created these for a select number of episodes.
May 26, 2019
MENTIONS:
5.35 - Joe Rogan
6.00 - SourceFed
6.27 - Clement von Franckenstein
8.37 - Black Books
8.48 - Peep Show
9.31 - Great British Bake Off
11.01 - Great American Baking Show
11:50 - Come Dine With Me
12:45 - Electric Dreams - Philip K. Dick
Blade Runner
Total Recall
13.30 - Black Mirror
13.49 - Zero Books - Douglas Lain
14.09 - Electric Dreams, “Real Life” - 1st Season, Episode 5
17.11 - West World
18.48 - Ted Dekker, The Circle Series
37.05 - Mike Falzone, comedian
37.23 - Planet Earth
40.23 - Val Kilmer, movie, Felon
QUIPS and QUOTES:
1.50 - Giving the obstacle as to why this won’t be good gives the fantasy that it could be amazing
21.10 - The most personal thing you can talk about… how trauma works, even in the seemingly ideal life, there is something that gets in the way.
21.57 - Escaping life through fantasy life, but the fantasy repeats in the fantasy life.
23.10 - The trauma is the very thing you can’t escape - no matter how much you try to change your life, traumas will return in different guises… they repeat
23.44 - The trauma isn’t something that is the fabric of their life. It is what tears the fabric of their life. So you can’t escape the trauma by creating a new fabric because it’s not the fabric that’s the problem, it’s the tear in the fabric that’s the issue. So trauma is a type of tear in the fabric of your reality.
25.50 - The problem with conversion, you can move from one religion to another, new friendships, relationships, worldview, but the one thing you can’t shake is the shadow itself… and it will manifest in different ways… but the loss, the lack, returns.
26.40 - If you make a distinction between two different types of trauma… in philosophy you call that ontological trauma and ontic trauma.
26.48 - Ontic trauma is the trauma that happens to YOU - we tend to repeat those.
27.30 - Repetition Compulsion - where you repeat.
28.35 - There’s the trauma that happens to you and the trauma that IS you. The trauma of being of existence. And they’re both interconnected.
28.49 - Basic understanding of trauma - we can often fantasize that our life would be perfect IF ONLY there was one little thing that didn’t exist.
29.00 - “Everything was going so well and than THIS happened!” So there always seems to be a little stain in our lives and if we could just get rid of the stain everything would be wonderful. But the stain actually generates the fantasy that everything would be wonderful without it. The stain is the necessary mark that creates life and also the fantasy of the perfect life. Trauma is the cut that both generates everything but also seems to get in the way of us getting exactly what we want. So we live that out.
30.14 - “If only, if only, if only…” (obsession).
32.10 - The more you can come to terms with the ontological trauma, the more freedom you can have from your historic ontic traumas.
32.42 - Terrible things happen to all people. They become traumas. They become all-consuming, repetition compulsions whenever we flee from the trauma that is life itself. But the more we can embrace the trauma that is life itself - we’ll still have traumas but we won’t get into repetition compulsion - we won’t get into circling our lives around traumas, repeating our traumas, wanting our traumas in some weird, unconscious way.
36.43 - Trauma is when it becomes a tear you can’t revolve around (not just something terrible that happened), that you can’t get past. It repeats.
43.15 - Life is difficult and we can make life better. Trauma is when we don’t want to make it better. Weirdly trauma is when we attach to some suffering and we don’t let it go - we may say we want to improve our lives but weirdly we repeat the destructive dimension of our life.
43.53 - Difference between contingent trauma and necessary traumas. Contingent trauma is when you didn’t want it, it just happened to you but then it becomes part of your psychic life and it becomes part of your destiny until you’re able to change your destiny.
44.33 - Ontic shock is realizing that you are a person in the world, in history. The shock of the child waking up. And we don’t want to look at ontic shock so we fantasize a lack of ontological trauma.
45.00 - Two ways to escape that there is a perfect life behind ontic trauma.
1. Individual, therapeutic model where you start with your ontic trauma and you work towards ontological trauma. So you have a breakdown and go to therapy thus is weakens your trauma.
2. Do it as communities. You start with the ontological and you move to the ontic. Community confronts the lack and that helps the individual come to terms with their individual traumas.
48.28 - In life, for example, you’ve got a relationship. You can break up with somebody but what you do is repeat the same type of relationship with different people. You don’t break up with the type of relationship you have. Or you can break up with a type of relationship and stay with the same person… The choice isn’t about breaking up or staying with someone. Often it’s about two people breaking up with the relationship they have so they can start a new relationship with the same person… None of them is right - you just have to break up with the negative trauma.
53.22 - That the obstacle stops you from getting what you want is actually part of getting what you want.
53.33 - Once you acknowledge that the obstacle is actually intertwined with the fantasy then you actually get to something that is good. Trauma creates the fantasy of the good.
*The obstacles are part of life.
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