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Episode 51 - The Psychic Vampire of Civilization

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June 2, 2019

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6.56 - Psychic vampire - type that sucks energy from others, most common.

12.39 - Psychic Vampire is a metaphor for contemporary, psychological society; Freud civilization, drains us of our libidinal energy - slowly, gradually kills energy.

13.30 - Example: Play gigs with band, have to get a job to pay bills - the anchor, the music, gives you meaning and value but eventually starts to go.

16.50 - … growth in learning to lose the libidinal.

17.00 - Reality principal - you have to give something up.

17.20 - “Giving up” - choosing a different joy versus something you really wanted

18.34 - FOMO - Fear Of Missing Out

18.49 - JOMO - Joy Of Missing Out

20.13 - You can choose to have your own perception changes

20.51 - Freud - Reflections on Melancholia, detachment from some object of the world you enjoy, you fall into lethargy

21.32 - 3 Types of Lethargy - all forms of Freud’s initial reflection on melancholy

  1. Manic Depression - completely detached, uninterested, creative expression

  2. Hedonistic Depression - explode in energetic activities but then feel completely empty after and bored

  3. Anxiety - profound detachment from reality

22.43 - Detachment from something we’ve lost (i.e. hopes, dreams, passion) but haven’t been able to mourn. Repressed to continue to work in society, societal expectations / psychic vampire sucks it out

27.11 - Revolutionary Act (Freud) - reattach, find things that give you meaning; anti-social like the plague because it’s disastrous to civilization. Civilization is detaching you from external objects that give you meaning.

28.18 - If you eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, you get kicked out of the garden, with enlightenment you’re going to realize you’re missing something.

29.48 - Life is meaningful when attached to some external thing

30.06 - Difference between depression and melancholy

  • Melancholy - so close to what you want that you no longer desire it

  • Depression - so far from what you want that you can’t think of anything else

30.53 - You want something in the world that enlivens you, that’s an enjoyable struggle.

31.56 - I didn’t want to lose the hope of getting “it” in exchange for the knowledge that I didn’t get it. (Elliott)

32.33 - The difficulty we have is it’s so difficult to mourn. What we do is we lose something and we repress or disavow and we forget. And the hysteric forgets in her body. An hysteric will often have conversion disorder.

32.54 - Conversion disorder - where you convert your loss into a physicality. An obsessional person will avoid confronting their loss through activities, ritual obsession/external world has to be in order.

36.05 - Often you’re encountering someone, psychic vampire, who, whether they know it or not, is suffering from a deep detachment from an objective desire.

36.16 - When you meet somebody, when you feel things like, “…do they unconsciously want me to feel what they’re feeling?” When you meet someone who drains you, you’re meeting someone who’s sadly lost something and they haven’t been able to mourn it. And the result is they give the energy in the room that they feel in themselves.

37.51 - Erotomania - person starts fantasizing that someone fancies them to the extent that anything they do is a coded message of love.

39.03 - “charismatic preacher” in relation to universal experiences… might ask a crowd of 500 people, “Does anyone have a sore back?”

39.23 - Terms of the universal, basic framework: hysteria, obsessional, anxiety, forms of psychosis, etc. - there’s a little bit of all of those things.

39.39 - Example: Take a psychotic who’s somebody who the voice or the gaze is so strong that they literally think they’re being looked at or they’re hearing things. All of us can relate to that in some small way.

40.00 - Even in the elements within neurosis

40.42 - Neurosis - the ego desire is weak under threat, or schizophrenia, out-of-the-body experiences, voices.

40.29 - Elliott imagines the concept of neurosis like a bubble or a cytoplasmic layer in a cell - diagrams of how it pops and things move in and out - like people who feel that on an osmosis level between them and their surroundings.

41.23 - Self-cure - Jacques Lacan referring to James Boyce

Notion: “Name of the father,” a solidifying of the ego. You can become father of the name - you can create a symbolic identity to hold on to, it can help.

44.45 - Friends vs. companions. Friends, it’s okay to be a “dick” to someone; take the piss out of you. But with not-friends, it backfires.

46.41 - World we live in, especially on the internet, everyone is imaging the gaze of the other with every post.

47.28 - Twitter conflict: why what others say makes an impact, not good or bad, but it tells you something about yourself.

48.47 - It’s not about, ‘you can’t be an asshole to somebody,’ it’s about knowing when you can be an asshole to somebody, misplaced offensiveness

49.37-52.40 - Structure format is lost on the internet, Twitter, Facebook conversations = not conducive to thinking well.

52.40 - In a personal level, one of the ways the body responds to the melancholy of society, of civilization, is moments of mania.

53.05 - On social media, in a world where people are being psychologically sucked dry of their energy, then there are these explosions of the opposite, of these incredibly intense views on politics and views on the other. Scapegoating, reaction formation, splitting.

59.39 - Pete: “That’s the question I really love. ‘What is the person trying to heal from?’ In whatever reaction. Explosions of rage or melancholy, or phobias, etc. these are attempts to keep the psychic life together.”

1.00.25 - “This is a symptom of an issue in society. This is a symptom of problems within how we work, how we love, how we engage in family life… You have to address the reason for the outburst.” - Peter

1.02.30 - To be human is to engage in loss and to experience loss. There’s no way to not experience loss. It’s not that civilization is some terrible thing… it’s that, to be human, is to give up certain things. It’s also to re-attach to things. To ask questions.

1.03.05 - Civilization and its Discontents, book by Freud. Civilization creates discontent and then discontents can help reform civilization. But the main danger is in anyone who thinks that we can have pure, unadulterated, utopia, that’s when totalitarianism comes in.

1.03.39 - We have to find a way to mourn our small losses. And civilization to mourn the big loss that is to be human, and to find objects externally that we give ourselves to knowing that nothing will fully satisfy us.

1.04.37 - The answer is mourning and melancholy. We have to remember, mourn, and reconnect. Remember what we’ve lost. Mourn what we’ve lost. Reconnect with the world in ways.

1.05.28 - How to develop entire communities that are able to detach from the psychic vampire and live in a type of anti-social / counter cultural way.

1.06.34 - Whether or not you believe the world is meaningful, if you are attached to something in the world, the world will be experienced as meaningful even if you believe it’s not. And if you have detached from the world, you’ll experience it as meaningless even if you believe it’s meaningful. The challenge for all of us is to work out what we have lost in our lives; mourn those losses, and try to find ways to reconnect with the world… pushes us beyond our everyday life, making life meaningful.

1.07.48 - Insight writer vs. joke writer (haha)

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